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Olmstein 04-09-2009 01:57 AM
98 shots from "new Rambo" spurs ammo debate
 
Need an excuse for a new ammo tax?

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BINGHAMTON, N.Y. (AP) � The man who gunned down 13 people at an upstate New York immigration center fired 98 shots from two handguns in a little more than a minute, police said Wednesday, a gunslinging feat one expert said would make him a "new Rambo."

Gun control advocates said if a man who complained about not getting enough in unemployment benefits could afford enough ammunition to repeatedly practice shooting and go into his killing zone with a satchel of bullets around his neck, new ways are needed to stem gun violence, including raising the price of ammunition.

Ballistics reports showed Jiverly Wong fired 87 times from a 9mm Beretta and 11 times from a .45-caliber handgun. If he bought the ammunition online, he could have paid as little as $40 for the rounds he fired.
More at link.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...NR2HAD97EIE0G1

Glass 04-09-2009 02:08 AM
Re: 98 shots from "new Rambo" spurs ammo debate
 
So the attack was over and done in 1 minute flat?
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gunslinging feat one expert said would make him a "new Rambo.
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Dan Kash, the owner of LAX Firing Range in Inglewood, Calif., was dubious that Wong fired that many rounds in the time police say he did.
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"He'd have to be super-proficient because he's walking and shooting, and shooting probably moving targets," Kash said. "Either it took a lot longer than what cops are saying, or this guy is more than just the average Joe. Unless the guy is some type of super gunslinger, no, he's not going to be able to do that."
How many mags and what capacity did he have?
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He was found with a satchel containing several full ammunition clips.
Could have bought the ammo cheap if he shopped around?
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If he bought the ammunition online, he could have paid as little as $40 for the rounds he fired.
Should someone control how another spends their money?
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"Chris Rock says in one of his routines — have all the guns you want but charge like $1,000 for every bullet," said Jackie Hilly of New Yorkers Against Gun Violence. "I think if you raised the price, you would probably discourage the violence, but I don't think you would prevent it."
Gun Controllers telling it plain huh? I call FoS. That means Full of .......

AG Capone 04-09-2009 07:21 AM
Re: 98 shots from "new Rambo" spurs ammo debate
 
High ammo prices will bring a black market in ammo and only serve in disarming law abiding citizens.

Look at cigarettes. People are making serious dough selling tax free cigs.

chad 04-09-2009 07:53 AM
Re: 98 shots from "new Rambo" spurs ammo debate
 
well, 5 or 6 people out of 3 million flip out, you have to do something. this sounds more than reasonable. :452:

Tn...Andy 04-09-2009 07:57 AM
Re: 98 shots from "new Rambo" spurs ammo debate
 
People are making serious dough selling tax free cigs.


And have for years. It was so bad years ago, that NYC sent undercover tax collectors down to popular sales sites in Virginia and North Carolina to take down info of people with NY tags loading cars and vans for the drive north.

I can only imagine it is far worse now. At some point, the farmers growing tobacco will start manufacturing cigarettes I'd guess.


Same with ammo. Reloading will become very popular ( more than already ) and new supplies of power/primers will be snapped up as soon as they hit the shelves ( hey....guess what....they already are ! ).....

Tn...Andy 04-09-2009 08:07 AM
Re: 98 shots from "new Rambo" spurs ammo debate
 
Hey, I HAD to google it:

http://www.smokingsmart.com/?gclid=C...FRAMDQodOzIAQg

Roll your own cigs....two minutes per pack, just like factory made !

Machine is FRN 449.

goldgun 04-09-2009 08:42 AM
Re: 98 shots from "new Rambo" spurs ammo debate
 
Didn't America fight one war because of taxes. Now they want to raise taxes on the one's with the guns? :4_1_72:

Doge 04-09-2009 09:57 AM
Re: 98 shots from "new Rambo" spurs ammo debate
 
The next law they try to pass should be the signal.

C&L 1911 04-09-2009 10:13 AM
Re: 98 shots from "new Rambo" spurs ammo debate
 
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The man who gunned down 13 people [...] fired 98 shots from two handguns [...]
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Gun control advocates said if a man [...] could afford enough ammunition to repeatedly practice shooting [...]
Really? I'm sorry to rain on their parade, but they are giving this guy too much credit. The guy fired 98 rounds into a crowd of people and only hit 13, and they think he practiced? :confused_ma: If he were a Rambo, he would have fired 13 rounds and hit 98 people. :sarc:

Twisted Avatar 04-09-2009 12:04 PM
Re: 98 shots from "new Rambo" spurs ammo debate
 
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Originally Posted by Doge (Post 1669734)
The next law they try to pass should be the signal.
I fear you are correct.......


The match has been struck and the fuse grow shorter by the minute

leadfoot 04-09-2009 11:25 PM
Re: 98 shots from "new Rambo" spurs ammo debate
 
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Gun control advocates said if a man who complained about not getting enough in unemployment benefits could afford enough ammunition to repeatedly practice shooting and go into his killing zone with a satchel of bullets around his neck, new ways are needed to stem gun violence, including raising the price of ammunition.
Makes perfect sense to me.:sarc: And lets raise the price of gasoline so drunks can't afford to drive.

CQC McDuck 04-10-2009 01:04 AM
Re: 98 shots from "new Rambo" spurs ammo debate
 
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Ballistics reports showed Jiverly Wong fired 87 times from a 9mm Beretta and 11 times from a .45-caliber handgun. If he bought the ammunition online, he could have paid as little as $40 for the rounds he fired.
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And so the inevitable begins...

Looks like ammunition is the new cigarettes.

morganchaser 04-10-2009 01:25 AM
Re: 98 shots from "new Rambo" spurs ammo debate
 
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Originally Posted by leadfoot (Post 1670946)
Makes perfect sense to me.:sarc: And lets raise the price of gasoline so drunks can't afford to drive.
:biggrin: Well put.

vector03 04-10-2009 08:25 AM
Re: 98 shots from "new Rambo" spurs ammo debate
 
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Originally Posted by Tn...Andy (Post 1669618)
Hey, I HAD to google it:

http://www.smokingsmart.com/?gclid=C...FRAMDQodOzIAQg

Roll your own cigs....two minutes per pack, just like factory made !

Machine is FRN 449.
Love the idea...

They said in the video it's good for 30,000 cigs or 1 year. If you're a pack a day smoker that's 7300 cigs a year...wonder why they say it will only last a year?

Mike C 04-10-2009 08:32 PM
Re: 98 shots from "new Rambo" spurs ammo debate
 
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Originally Posted by leadfoot (Post 1670946)
Makes perfect sense to me.:sarc: And lets raise the price of gasoline so drunks can't afford to drive.
Very good analogy(sp?).

Might have to use that one myself.

Doge 04-10-2009 08:47 PM
Re: 98 shots from "new Rambo" spurs ammo debate
 
A "new Rambo"? Where do they come up with this nonsense?


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